[Geoinfo] [Fwd: Re: Formal petition to the Italian government and media]

[Rubén Somoza]

nota formal de IAVCEI en favor de los 7 científicos condenados en Italia
por predicciones incorrectas sobre el terremoto de 2009


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Asunto: Re: Formal petition to the Italian government and media
De:     "GSPH" <gsph en GEOLSOC.ORG.UK>
Fecha:  Lun, 29 de Octubre de 2012, 13:35
Para:   GEO-TECTONICS en JISCMAIL.AC.UK
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The International Association of Volcanology and Chemistry of the
Earth's Interior (IAVCEI) has published a response to the convictions:

http://www.iavcei.org/documents/IAVCEI_Response_Aquila_Earthquake%20Conv
ictions.pdf



Angharad Hills



From: Tectonics & structural geology discussion list
[mailto:GEO-TECTONICS en JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Djordje Grujic
Sent: 24 October 2012 20:00
To: GEO-TECTONICS en JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: Formal petition to the Italian government and media



I agree with both Bob Holdsworth and Dirk Nieuwland

That is why I think the action, if any, has to be professional, formal,
and to come from a high level rather than from a bunch of irritated
scientists.

Regards,

Djordje

On 2012-10-24, at 1:59 PM, Dirk Nieuwland <dnieuw en XS4ALL.NL> wrote:





Dear All,



I agree with Bob Holdsworth that we must be very cautious in what we do.


I also could not agree more with the general sentiment about this
judgement in Italy.

Being involved with stability of underground age storages and risks of
induced seismicity, I can see myself  and geoscientists like me (in a
worst case scenario), in an "Italian position" if this becomes rule
rather than exception. As a result  safety associated with geological
projects (underground or at surface or associated with natural
phenomena) will be at risk.



Regards, Dirk Nieuwland



Dirk Nieuwland
4e Binnenvestgracht 13
2311NT Leiden
T:  071-5216892
M: 0621547949
E: dnieuw en xs4all.nl






On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Djordje Grujic <dgrujic en DAL.CA> wrote:





Dear Colleagues,

Instead of shaking our heads we ought to get in action.

There should to be a formal petition with a letter written by
specialists and hopefully signed by a large number of Earth Scientists.

This should be done not only to defend the convicted Italian scientist
but also for all scientists making forecasts, prognoses and predictions
in natural processes with inherently low probability of occurrence.
This case will make a dangerous precedent: scientist will be penalized
unless dealing with certainti
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